Channel #semsol: Logs

This is a public chat log generated from the #semsol IRC channel.

08:55:26 kwijibo: good morning
08:55:53 bengee: heyup kwijibo (and everyone)
08:56:10 kwijibo: morning bengee
10:52:04 Simone: Hi bengee :)
10:52:18 bengee: heya Simone
10:52:46 bengee: glad you found us :)
10:55:52 bengee: bengee is writing RDFa extractor documentation
10:57:10 Simone: Simone good, have you read about chaining?
10:57:36 bengee: yeah, what a mess :(
10:58:22 Simone: You know...
11:02:13 Simone: I've just try to register by my gmail but no response from list, I've used another address
11:02:36 bengee: it's in your spam folder
11:03:09 bengee: gmail unfortunately doesn't like mails sent via php's mail() function
11:04:14 Simone: damn... but I've checked, there are no ARC mail on spam folder...
11:04:15 bengee: but thanks for joining the list :)
11:04:29 Simone: It's great for me, bengee
11:05:26 Simone: so try to change, but I'm sure You've just wrote it, the mail headers using a mailer or some?
11:06:49 bengee: tried everything already from forced return-path to message ids, I have to switch to smtp to make it gmail-happy
11:07:56 iSimo: ok, so I'm using a mail() on my server and adding the header mail arrives, but can be also setting of server itself
11:08:27 iSimo: iSimo ops, this is my registered nick
17:03:59 scor: hi
17:21:13 scor: hi
17:32:22 scor: .
18:10:14 bengee: hi scor
18:10:49 scor: hi bengee: I posted the arc preview release on sioc-dev
18:11:00 bengee: oha
18:12:10 scor: http://groups.google.com/group/sioc-dev/browse_thread/thread/37028298313815e9
18:13:52 bengee: the arc-bot irc logger uses sioc
18:14:29 scor: bengee: :seems like I get my subscribe emails in inbox now on gmail....
18:15:26 bengee: oh, really?
18:16:04 scor: and I don't think I clicked on report spam
18:16:09 scor: will try with another gmail
18:16:32 bengee: simone tried it earlier today, but without luck on gmail
18:18:32 kwijibo: bengee: are the logs available somewhere as RDF?
18:18:42 kwijibo: (whatis arc-bot written in btw?)
18:19:00 bengee: not yet, although it wouldn't be much work
18:19:24 bengee: arc-bot is a Trice module, i.e. plain php
18:20:00 kwijibo: would be interesting to see how the logs are modelled
18:21:11 kwijibo: (and would be interesting to see Trice too of course ;) )
18:21:14 bengee: just rss (item, title, link, description) + dc (date, creator) + sioc:has_container
18:22:06 bengee: yeah, was wondering about making trice available super-early
18:23:34 bengee: the arc feedback has been very helpful already, trice could benefit from early feedback as well, I guess
18:26:43 kwijibo: kwijibo is wondering how hard it would be to point the front-end part at different back-end stores
18:29:05 bengee: ah, to make it work on top of a talis platform store?
18:33:38 kwijibo: yeah - well that would be one of the things I would try to do with it :D
18:33:55 kwijibo: others might try with virtuoso or whatever
18:34:31 kwijibo: but I'd like to try it with the native arc store too
18:35:06 bengee: hmm, the current handlers all use the internal $store->query() interface
18:35:30 kwijibo: yeah - and for many things you need sparql+ I imagine
18:35:37 bengee: yes
18:35:56 bengee: damn proprietary standard extensions..
18:36:01 kwijibo: kwijibo looks wistfully at aggregate functions
18:38:15 bengee: however, the trice request process is rather simple: request -> handler detection based on path -> handler instantiation and call -> result value collection -> template
18:38:59 bengee: a handler can set the root template, and fill a $result arry, which can then be accessed by the template
18:39:39 bengee: so you could write your own handler that extends a default handler and route (certain) sparql operations to a remote store
18:40:11 bengee: e.g. keep the session / access control stuff locally, but get the data from somewhere else
18:40:54 bengee: or just write a dedicated handler, e.g. for a wiki, and just use trice to generate the forms
18:42:12 bengee: like e.g. the mailing list bot which connects to a remote pop accout to fetch the mails