Channel #semsol: Logs

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04:18:14 CLoCkWeRX: stupid question: is there an easy way to tell if two graphs are equivalent via ARC2? Ie, I've got two graphs, and only blank nodes IDs are different, but this means I can't do simple $foo == $bar comparisons...
10:41:52 kwijibo: hi CloCkWeRX you're Daniel O'Connor ?
10:42:57 CloCkWeRX: that's the one
10:43:07 CloCkWeRX: oh dear, so long since I've been on irc
10:43:29 CloCkWeRX: send again?
10:46:34 CloCkWeRX: cheers
10:46:44 kwijibo: is it working?
10:46:51 kwijibo: (the file upload)
10:47:15 CloCkWeRX: http://pastebin.com/ ?
10:48:59 kwijibo: http://pastebin.com/m72f2cdd2
10:49:49 kwijibo: CloCkWeRX: note that you will need to change $object['value'] to $object['val']
10:50:14 CloCkWeRX: n/p
10:58:24 kwijibo: any joy?
10:58:51 CloCkWeRX: it's working... ish
10:59:07 CloCkWeRX: i just have to bend my mind around the API/data structures a little for a moment
10:59:33 CloCkWeRX: it's certainly recognising when two bnodes are the Same Thing
11:02:36 kwijibo: CloCkWeRX: it shouldn't, surely?
11:02:55 kwijibo: bnodes should always be different
11:03:00 kwijibo: if they are from different graphs
11:06:58 CloCkWeRX: http://rafb.net/p/2UiUMm99.html ... it's saying both <""> <P3Pv1expiry> _:arc881fb1, <""> <P3Pv1expiry> _:r1108136297r1
11:07:18 CloCkWeRX: which... i think... gets me to a better place than i was earlier... maybe
11:07:41 CloCkWeRX: when i say "same" i mean "equivalent"
11:10:03 kwijibo: CloCkWeRX: so it's generating new unique bnode ids where the bnode already exists in the previous graph?
11:10:21 kwijibo: (that's what it should do - I think :) )
11:11:31 CloCkWeRX: i suppose it would, but i don't have that happening to me, heh :S
11:14:14 kwijibo: so it's merging, eg: _:a1 from graph 1 with _:a1 from graph 2?
11:14:20 kwijibo: (it shouldn't)
11:14:26 CloCkWeRX: no no, definately not
11:14:29 kwijibo: (I think)
11:14:32 kwijibo: oh, cool :)
11:15:14 kwijibo: are you planning to contribute the GRDDL parser to ARC?
11:15:38 CloCkWeRX: i started in that direction
11:15:48 CloCkWeRX: but switched to the idea of an XML_GRDDL package
11:15:56 CloCkWeRX: and then a plugin built atop that for ARC
11:16:37 CloCkWeRX: 80% done with the XML_GRDDL side of it, just need to fight some of the test cases, and find a decent way to assert I've produced equivalent results
11:17:21 CloCkWeRX: unfortunately it relies on PHP 5.2.6 (snapshot) at the moment to function correctly - xsl extension, windows builds need libxml/libxslt somethingorrather
11:18:28 kwijibo: yeah - I thought it might need php5
11:19:34 CloCkWeRX: it'll be built so you can switch between the inbuilt xsl, or saxon (via php-java bridge), or Insert Your XSL Library Here
11:20:15 kwijibo: i take it will be open source?
11:20:28 CloCkWeRX: yup
11:20:54 kwijibo: I'm building a triplr-like service (http://convert.test.talis.com ) I'd love to use it in
11:21:16 CloCkWeRX: lemmie stick some code somewhere, please keep in mind its undercooked at the moment and doesn't have proper unit tests, etc etc
11:21:36 kwijibo: 'kay - no rush :)
11:27:40 kwijibo: kwijibo imagining an authentication procedure involving irc PM instead of email ...
11:30:38 CloCkWeRX: brb, computer misbehaving
12:00:27 CloCkWeRX: kwijibo, inbox if you haven't seen already, let me know if its at all useful / not
21:21:08 peterkz: Hello! Anyone who has any tips on creating a HTML document from a model?