Channel #semsol: Logs

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10:39:43 kwijibo: hey bengee: my form templating thing is just roundtripping rdf data through form widgets via the @name, what type of widget you put the data in is up to you
10:40:20 bengee: yeah, but I'm starting from an empty resource and a schema
10:41:07 bengee: and I need css selectors, i.e. valid IDs or classes
10:41:29 bengee: (it's a pure-js framework)
10:43:01 kwijibo: yeah, been thinnking along those lines myself
10:43:35 kwijibo: the rdf in @name thing is a different layer to the problem
10:44:14 kwijibo: have you looked at jsonT at all?
10:45:15 bengee: I do have a pretty form now, with popups and mandatory fields, and can hit "save", now I have to somehow generate netsed triples from the values and the initial form def
10:46:34 kwijibo: that's the part the @name thing I came up with helps with
10:46:47 bengee: hmm, jsont, think so, but that's at least 1.5 years ago
10:47:11 kwijibo: I'm (as we speak) working on an arc plugin for the rdf-in-@name form thing
10:47:22 bengee: hey, cool
10:47:51 kwijibo: I dunno - not actually tried the jsont thing yet - was wondering if rdf/json + jsont = good enough rdf path language?
10:49:24 kwijibo: bengee: if you wanted to try the form syntax, you can point your form at http://convert.test.talis.com/editor and it will transform it to RDF (which you can optionally have posted elsewhere)
10:50:50 bengee: yeah, saw that
10:51:12 bengee: my forms don't post anywhere, though ;)
10:51:47 bengee: it's a wild all-in-js framework
10:52:28 kwijibo: what happens to the data at the end then?
10:52:39 bengee: it's sent as triples
10:52:46 kwijibo: where to?
10:53:02 bengee: an rdf gateway instance
10:53:42 kwijibo: what's that ? :)
10:53:49 bengee: http://arc.semsol.org/community/irc/logs/2008/03/(http://intellidimension.com/)
10:54:17 kwijibo: sent as triples how?
10:55:04 bengee: ntriples in a compact json format (similar to php's serialize method) via http post
10:55:50 kwijibo: hmm... RDF Gateway: A platform for the semantic web ... sounds like a rubbish idea... it'll never catch on ;)
10:57:10 bengee: heh, they are quite busy for years already, while everybody else is still working on tools
10:57:42 kwijibo: bengee: in that case, wouldn't your simple rdf-in-html syntax work well for capturing the values of the triples?
10:58:12 bengee: hmm, no. don't want to parse the html
10:59:06 bengee: each form field has a corresponding js object, so I just have to re-build the nestings, which I think I figured out now
10:59:35 kwijibo: ah cool
11:00:10 kwijibo: so the semantics are bound up with the creation of the field in js?
11:02:57 bengee: sort-of (if I understood your q correctly)