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12:13:56
hi bengee! i just installed knowee, it looks very nice and promising!
12:14:10
thanks :)
12:14:24
still an alpha..
12:14:59
yes, alpahs of course. but is it already supposed to use my foaf file to import contacts? i didn't manage to have it import things with mine: http://infomancer.org/foaf.xml
12:15:03
the bots are still falling asleep every now and then
12:15:36
ah, yes, there is no sign of bot acitity in the logs
12:15:55
only [2009-01-28T04:53:17Z] loading schemas
12:15:57
[2009-01-28T04:53:17Z] starting bots
12:17:12
what does the queue at /bot-runner/queue say?
12:17:51
nothing in the bot queue table
12:18:29
try bot-runner/?check=1
12:18:40
and then the log
12:19:36
do you see "start bots" or "stop bots" in the right column at /bot-runner?
12:20:36
re foaf, if you add your foaf profile to your accounts, knowee should import the foaf:knows relations as contacts
12:21:15
one line added to the log: [2009-01-28T07:19:18Z] checking bots
12:21:20
the bots should also follow seeAlsos and populate the contact details in the address book
12:21:28
no, i only see "view queue" no start or stop
12:22:02
ah, i am not logged in as admin
12:22:12
ok, go to /login and log in as admin
12:22:30
the you can see at bot-runner if the bots are running
12:22:56
you can also set your account as admin in the sys.php config
12:23:47
ok, i filled the queue now. let's see what happens :-)
12:23:48
then you don't have to log in as admin
12:23:51
thx bengee
12:24:01
np
12:24:24
hope it works now. you can check "view log" for background activity
12:26:16
it added a lot of URIs, but next(=first) run is only in 8 minutes. i'll check back then
12:26:59
the bot should always pick the first item in the queue, even if it's not due yet
12:27:16
every 60 secs or so
12:28:21
the algorithm is: run all tasks that are due now XOR run the next upcoming task
12:29:38
to lower bot activity peaks a little bit
12:32:12
hm, here no bot is active yet. the countdown is down to one minute
12:33:31
there should be a "Checking Queue" in the log every 30 secs
12:33:40
otherwise the bots are not running
12:33:58
now it at "-1".
12:34:04
no checking queue in the log
12:34:14
only the statements about adding uris
12:34:31
and the navigation says "stop bots"?
12:34:40
yes
12:35:05
then there is some error..
12:35:46
well, it is not so important for me to get it to run now. but if you want feedback for debugging, i'll be happy to try other things
12:36:11
try running one of the paths from the queue
12:36:24
i.e. copy + append to /bot-runner/
12:36:25
it shouldn't be a problem that my server has htaccess protection, should it?
12:36:48
if you get a PHP error, we might be able to find out
12:37:50
or try "stop bots" and then "start bots"
12:37:55
ok, taht worked "bot running" and some sparql statements in the log
12:38:30
ok, then it's just the background process that got terminated for some reason
12:38:51
start+stop might help
12:39:11
or another ?check=1
12:39:56
no help from that:
12:39:57
[2009-01-28T07:39:33Z] checking bots
12:39:59
[2009-01-28T07:39:30Z] checking bots
12:40:00
[2009-01-28T07:39:07Z] loading schemas
12:40:02
[2009-01-28T07:39:07Z] starting bots
12:40:03
[2009-01-28T07:39:06Z] stopping bots
12:40:05
nothing else
12:40:07
hmm
12:40:14
but I gotta go to lunch now
12:40:15
cu later!
12:40:19
ok, cya
13:39:31
bengee: so i tried stopping/starting/checking bots and emptying and filling the quere. but the bots won't work no their own. is there anything else i can do?
13:39:59
(but a bit of copy psting jobs into the address bar already got me 72 contacts improted -> very nice!)
13:43:02
not much realy
13:43:21
you can try calling the queue processor directly
13:43:39
/bot-runner/processor
13:44:23
maybe you'll get an error message here
13:44:38
it should at least write "checking queue" into the log
13:46:11
and then "Processing call (...)" for each task retrieved from the queue
13:47:30
yes, it does that and:
13:47:31
[2009-01-28T08:46:18Z] running FOAF inference bot for thosch
13:47:33
[2009-01-28T08:46:18Z] MySQL process count: 1
13:47:49
this at least make manual prodding of bots easier :-)
13:48:06
ok, then wait 30secs and see if it's still running
13:48:21
the processor re-invokes itself every 30 secs
13:49:08
if it doesn't, then your server might not allow scripts to run that long, but 30secs is usually default
13:51:59
unfortuanatly it doesnt run on its own. is that 30sec the php timeout?
13:52:20
possibly
13:54:12
you could try changing /code/knowee/botrunner/Knowee_BotRunner_ProcessorHandler.php
13:54:58
around line 60, there's a command "$this->LaunchQueueProcessor(30)"
13:55:24
note to self: this should be a lowercase method name
13:55:43
try changing the 30 to 15 or so
14:11:06
bengee: hm, that didnt help either. but i can live with reloading the /processor page for now.
14:11:09
thanks for your help
14:11:15
ok, welcome
14:11:30
it is really a great app. it even made me update my foaf file :-)
14:11:34
heh
14:11:38
thanks :)
14:12:07
is there a roadmap for when knowee might become beta?
14:12:43
no, it depends on when I find time for it
14:12:59
or if others start contributing code
14:14:06
i see
14:14:50
I have to force myself to focus on paid work a little more or I won't get through 2009..
14:16:22
knowee will be very easy to incrementally improve, though. So there should be updates coming
14:17:44
oh, yes, those pesky money issues....