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11:09:45
hi
11:12:19
i was wondering, does arc uses redland ?
11:13:00
no, arc is a stand-alone, pure-php implementation
11:13:20
(well, +mysql)
11:13:58
by the way bengee, which tool do you use to create a rdf/owl file ?
11:14:45
I usually auto-generate them from instance data
11:15:12
what does it mean by instance data ?
11:15:46
the fact is I'd like to create a thesaurus, but i don't know where to begin: create it with Protégé, then uses arc to create database in order to query it
11:15:54
I wouldn't start building an app by creating the model/ontology
11:15:58
or another method...
11:16:17
but for a website, it's best to create the thesaurus first, no ?
11:16:39
worth a read: http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/linotype/news/93/
11:16:59
ok i read it now
11:17:29
ah it's a general paper
11:17:49
well i need to do my structure first
11:18:10
you don't do the same thing bengee?
11:20:04
if you need the thesaurus first, then using some thesaurus editor makes sense
11:20:15
you know some bengee?
11:20:38
only he ones I mentioned
11:20:40
I've seen ThManager, but it's deprecated, and Protégé, good, but complex
11:21:26
maybe I should build one..
11:21:30
ok, so if i create a good owl with protégé, i'll be able to load it in arc in order to construct a database automatically in order to use sparql or query the base manually ?
11:22:10
yes, you can load owl/rdf into arc and then sparql the ata
11:22:18
s/ata/data/
11:22:44
sparql use mysql as a backend ?
11:22:52
arc does
11:23:28
ok, and you know how to use a powerful websearch engine on your website that benefits from this thesaurus ?
11:23:40
for example, if i search dad, it will search daddy, etc...
11:23:45
no
11:24:20
people on #swig might know one
11:24:35
ok i ask, maybe lucene, solR do this
11:38:44
bengee: do you if this is possible, with arc, to have a thesaurus in a database (given by arc), in order for arc to create the rdf file on the fly ?
11:39:54
you mean, if ARC can export your thesaurus as RDF again? yes
11:40:20
and arc gives the structure to use in mysql ?
11:40:38
the fact i find protégé very complex to create a simple thing as a thesorus
13:27:56
after googling a lot, i've seen that Jena and sesame are good candidate to manage RDF, someone has an idea of benchmark between arc and those tools ?
13:29:49
they are faster and more scalable than arc
13:40:04
ok
13:40:42
i've read in arc, that it's more data first than structure first, ok, but how do you add rdf data easily bengee ?
13:41:00
via sparql
13:41:07
i've seen Sesame 2 Windows Client, I don't know if it works with last version of sesame, but it's quite convenient
13:41:30
so you do a php loop to do the equivalent of a sql INSERT query, that's it ?
15:40:29
bengee: you know if the developers are very active on arc ?