Channel #semsol: Logs

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15:28:01 bengee: scor, good to see you're going to that iks workshop
15:31:38 bengee: their "the LAMP stack is not well suited for using semantic web technologies" assumption is apparently wrong
15:37:27 kwijibo: iks?
15:38:03 bengee: http://www.iks-project.eu/
15:50:23 scor: hey bengee! yeah, managed to work around my schedule at the last minute :)
15:51:57 scor: bengee: have they said that anywhere?
15:52:14 scor: bengee: note they use Drupal on http://www.iks-project.eu/
15:52:42 bengee: on the "challenge" page
15:53:46 bengee: they apparently don't know that we have been working on that stuff for years already
15:53:48 scor: bengee: they probably see the semantic web as a monolithic piece of software :)
15:56:19 bengee: you should add your modules to their site ;)
15:56:59 scor: bengee: :D
15:57:39 scor: I'm not use to this kind of LAMP criticism, I suppose you have had arguments on that in the past
15:57:47 scor: bengee: are you also going to IKS?
15:58:08 bengee: I'm not going, no
15:58:15 bengee: maybe it's just the wording
15:58:33 bengee: they seem to actually target the LAMP stack
16:01:31 scor: bengee: they seem to talk about bridging...
16:01:38 bengee: drupal was still a hot topic at the nyc meetup group, btw. they were still talking about your presentation
16:02:03 scor: build bridges between LAMP-based CMS and semantic web - build the same kind of bridges between Java-based CMS and the semantic web
16:02:19 scor: bengee: lol. good to hear they got something out of it
16:02:37 scor: I'm presenting in Toronto tonight
16:03:04 bengee: yeah, read the tweet. rock the house!
16:03:53 bengee: deri must have a huge travel budget ;)
16:04:28 scor: bengee: no, it's just that I take the chance to present wherever I travel!
16:04:42 bengee: ah, good strategy :)
16:04:48 scor: I just happen to be in Toronto for family vacation/work
16:05:12 bengee: ic
16:06:56 scor: bengee: have you ever presented arguments on LAMP vs Java/other, or do you have pointers to arguments/slides I could use. (I'm used to see criticism from the java community, but having some arguments prepared would be good)
16:07:33 bengee: I mentioned a couple at nyc last week
16:07:57 bengee: mainly efficiency and mediation skills wrt to the developers
16:08:19 bengee: you'll have the php app up and running while java coders are still loading their class tree ;)
16:08:59 bengee: php is loosely typed and allows dynamic method calls which is very handy in the semweb context
16:10:49 bengee: (maybe there's an equivalent to $obj->$method_name() in java, not sure
16:10:51 bengee: the main argument against php is the shared-nothing architecture
16:10:52 bengee: in the semweb context, that is
16:11:03 bengee: where it makes sense to load a model into some app server's memory for quicker querying
16:11:22 scor: bengee: ic
16:12:37 scor: bengee: in contrast the SN arch is known to scale better right?
16:12:59 bengee: yeah, true
16:13:29 scor: bengee: that works, thanks
16:14:17 bengee: once we have query federation, distributed small-ish RDF stores should enable large apps through composition
16:15:22 scor: sure